{"id":2683,"date":"2025-01-15T09:36:06","date_gmt":"2025-01-15T15:36:06","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/thexradio3.com\/news\/?p=2683"},"modified":"2025-01-15T09:37:09","modified_gmt":"2025-01-15T15:37:09","slug":"madigan-leaves-witness-stand-expressing-regret-over-any-time-spent-w-danny-solis","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.thexradio.com\/news\/local-news\/2683-madigan-leaves-witness-stand-expressing-regret-over-any-time-spent-w-danny-solis\/","title":{"rendered":"Madigan Leaves Witness Stand Expressing Regret Over &#8216;Any Time Spent w\/Danny Solis&#8217;"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"pdfprnt-buttons pdfprnt-buttons-post pdfprnt-top-right\"><a href=\"javascript: window.print()\" class=\"pdfprnt-button pdfprnt-button-print\" target=\"_self\" ><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.thexradio.com\/news\/wp-content\/plugins\/pdf-print\/images\/print.png\" alt=\"image_print\" title=\"Print Content\" \/><span class=\"pdfprnt-button-title pdfprnt-button-print-title\">Print<\/span><\/a><\/div><p><em>Former Illinois House Speaker Michael Madigan leaves the Dirksen Federal Courthouse in Chicago after a Jan. 3, 2024, hearing that delayed his trial. A year later, Madigan\u2019s trial is wrapping up after the former speaker took the stand in his own defense. (Capitol News Illinois photo by Andrew Adams)<\/em><\/p>\n<p>By HANNAH MEISEL<br \/>Capitol News Illinois<br \/><a href=\"mailto:hmeisel@capitolnewsillinois.com\">hmeisel@capitolnewsillinois.com<\/a><\/p>\n<p>CHICAGO \u2013 After Michael Madigan spent several hours facing blistering cross-examination in his federal corruption trial, the former Illinois House speaker on Tuesday made a rare candid remark about the yearslong investigation that landed him on the witness stand in a Chicago courtroom.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWe all have regrets in life,\u201d Madigan said. \u201cAnd one of my regrets is that I ever had any time spent with Danny Solis.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Read more:<\/strong> <a href=\"https:\/\/capitolnewsillinois.com\/news\/madigan-testifies-in-own-defense\/\">Madigan takes witness stand, denying he traded \u2018public office\u2019 for \u2018private gain\u2019<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/capitolnewsillinois.com\/news\/breaking-madigan-to-take-witness-stand-in-his-corruption-trial\/\">Madigan to take witness stand in his corruption trial<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Longtime Chicago Ald. Danny Solis\u2019 cover was blown nearly six years ago, when the <a href=\"https:\/\/chicago.suntimes.com\/2019\/1\/23\/18369359\/solis-secretly-recorded-fellow-ald-burke-to-help-feds-in-criminal-investigation\">Chicago Sun-Times revealed<\/a> him to have been cooperating with the government since 2016. Less than a week later, a second bombshell dropped: Another FBI mole had <a href=\"https:\/\/chicago.suntimes.com\/2019\/1\/29\/18413125\/fbi-secretly-recorded-mike-madigan-at-his-law-office-pitching-firm-s-services\">secretly recorded Madigan<\/a> at his law office in 2014 during a meeting with a potential client that was arranged by the alderman. Solis had been chair of the Chicago City Council\u2019s zoning committee, while Madigan had for decades been a partner of a law firm that specialized in property tax appeals.<\/p>\n<p>The full extent of Solis\u2019 cooperation against Madigan \u2013 including his own secret recordings of their meetings \u2013 wouldn&#8217;t become known until much later. But the former speaker now faces 23 counts of bribery and other public corruption charges.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>In the 1 \u00bd years leading up to the revelation about Solis\u2019 double life, Madigan and the alderman had gotten closer after decades of a more casual political alliance. In June 2017, the speaker made an out-of-the-blue phone call to Solis asking for an introduction to the developer behind a proposed apartment complex in Chicago\u2019s booming West Loop, part of Solis\u2019 23rd Ward.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Unbeknownst to the speaker, Solis had been cooperating with the feds for the past year and the call reignited the FBI\u2019s interest in Madigan, which had been mostly dormant since 2014, according to prior testimony from an agent in charge of the investigation.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Read more:<\/strong> <a href=\"https:\/\/capitolnewsillinois.com\/news\/ex-chicago-ald-danny-solis-who-secretly-recorded-madigan-for-fbi-takes-witness-stand\/\">Ex-Chicago Ald. Danny Solis, who secretly recorded Madigan for FBI, takes witness stand<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/capitolnewsillinois.com\/news\/you-know-why-im-interested-wiretaps-secretly-recorded-videos-show-madigan-recruiting-business-to-his-law-firm\/\">\u2018You know why I\u2019m interested\u2019: Wiretaps, secretly recorded videos show Madigan recruiting business to his law firm<\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong>\u2018Just leave it in my hands\u2019<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>The gradual uptick in Solis\u2019 phone calls and meetings with Madigan \u2013 including his solicitation of the speaker\u2019s assistance with an ultimately doomed land deal \u2013 was orchestrated by the FBI. So too was the alderman\u2019s eventual request that Madigan help him get appointed to a lucrative state board position.<\/p>\n<p>While Madigan projected an air of relaxed confidence under questioning from his own attorney last week, the former speaker\u2019s answers didn\u2019t come as easily during cross-examination Monday and Tuesday, including on questions about his dealings with Solis.<\/p>\n<p>Assistant U.S. Attorney Amarjeet Bhachu grilled Madigan about why he\u2019d agreed to forward Solis\u2019 name to newly elected Gov. JB Pritzker in the fall of 2018 for consideration to a high-paying state board. Bhachu pointed out that the speaker asked Solis to send him a resume even after the alderman repeatedly insinuated that he viewed the favor as an exchange for introducing Madigan to more potential law clients.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Read more:<\/strong> <a href=\"https:\/\/capitolnewsillinois.com\/news\/in-contentious-cross-examination-prosecutor-accuses-madigan-of-not-telling-the-whole-truth\/\">In contentious cross-examination, prosecutor accuses Madigan of not telling \u2018the whole truth\u2019<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u201cAnd you say, \u2018just leave it in my hands,\u2019\u201d Bhachu asked the former speaker of an exchange during his meeting with Solis in August 2018 where the pair went over a list of state boards and commissions.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI would put it in my file and potentially give it to Pritzker,\u201d Madigan replied, softening what Solis had characterized as a promise during his time on the witness stand in November.<\/p>\n<p>Madigan never made the recommendation before the January 2019 revelation about Solis\u2019 FBI cooperation.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Read more:<\/strong> <a href=\"https:\/\/capitolnewsillinois.com\/news\/jurors-see-list-of-madigans-job-recommendations-given-to-newly-elected-gov-pritzker\/\">Jurors see list of Madigan\u2019s job recommendations given to newly elected Gov. Pritzker<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u201cSo this is after repeated statements by Solis where he\u2019s tying you \u2013 doing something for somebody in your official capacity \u2013 to you getting law firm business, right?\u201d Bhachu asked.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThat\u2019s what Mr. Solis was doing and I was just carrying along the conversation,\u201d Madigan said.<\/p>\n<p>The former speaker had already claimed twice during Bhachu\u2019s questioning Monday and Tuesday morning that he knew what Solis was insinuating on multiple occasions in 2017 and 2018 but opted to give non-answers to what he deemed inappropriate questions instead of confronting him.<\/p>\n<p>The one instance in which Madigan did confront Solis in 2017 was after one of their first phone calls about the West Loop developer. In that June 2017 call, Solis explicitly used the phrase \u201cquid pro quo\u201d when trying to explain that the developer understood he\u2019d approve the zoning changes needed for the project contingent on becoming Madigan\u2019s client \u2013 a lie directed by the FBI.<\/p>\n<p>Still, Bhachu pointed out, the speaker went ahead with arranging the meeting with the developer, and in a short confrontation with Solis before the meeting began a few weeks later, Madigan admonished him for using the phrase \u201cquid pro quo.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cYou shouldn\u2019t be talking like that,\u201d Madigan said on Solis\u2019 secretly recorded video. \u201cYou\u2019re just recommending our law firm because if they don\u2019t get a good result on the real estate taxes, the whole project would be in trouble. Which is not good for your ward. So you want high quality representation.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cOh, I\u2019m sorry. Yeah,\u201d Solis said in reply.<\/p>\n<p>The former speaker testified that he believed Solis had \u201cgotten the message\u201d that \u201cthere was not gonna be a quid pro quo\u201d and was chastened by his rebuke.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Read more:<\/strong> <a href=\"https:\/\/capitolnewsillinois.com\/news\/you-shouldnt-be-talking-like-that-madigan-scolded-alderman-turned-fbi-mole-for-bringing-up-quid-pro-quo\/\">\u2018You shouldn\u2019t be talking like that\u2019: Madigan scolded alderman-turned-FBI mole for bringing up \u2018quid pro quo\u2019<\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong>&#8216;That was a lie, wasn\u2019t it?\u2019<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Prosecutors have long maintained Madigan was giving Solis a \u201cfalse story\u201d as cover. Bhachu on Monday accused the former speaker of cooking up the rationale.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThat was a lie, wasn\u2019t it?\u201d Bhachu asked. \u201cYou knew on that day there was no threat to the project.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Madigan exhaled in a sort of laugh after having explained that property taxes are \u201can important element of development,\u201d prompting Bhachu to ask: \u201cIs there something funny about my question, sir?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Returning to the subject on Tuesday morning, Madigan insisted this week that property taxes were always a legitimate concern for a large development. In fact, the former speaker\u2019s firm had represented the property\u2019s previous occupant when it was an addiction treatment center whose not-for-profit status exempted it from property taxes. Because the project was a tear-down development in an up-and-coming area of the city, the eventual cost of those taxes was less certain than comparable properties.<\/p>\n<p>When Madigan attorney Dan Collins got another chance to question his client after Bhachu\u2019s initial cross-examination, he also asked the former speaker why he\u2019d continued interacting with Solis after the \u201cquid pro quo\u201d episode in 2017.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI felt I had been effective in delivering a message that there would be no &#8216;quid pro quo,&#8217;\u201d Madigan said. \u201cAnd then and over time, I gave him the benefit of the doubt.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>After a pause, he added that having spent any time with Solis was \u201cone of my regrets.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Also on Tuesday, Madigan\u2019s longtime law partner Vincent \u201cBud\u201d Getzendanner took the stand, his sharp memory for exact dates and other details demonstrating why he and the former speaker were well-matched. His dry commentary also mirrored Madigan\u2019s as he answered Assistant U.S. Attorney Sarah Streicker\u2019s question about having \u201cworked together for decades\u201d with a caveat that drew titters from the courtroom.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cDecades is such a harsh word, but yes,\u201d Getzendanner replied.<\/p>\n<p>Madigan and Getzendanner formed their firm of the same name in the early 1970s after having met at Chicago\u2019s Loyola Law School the previous decade. At first, their practice was more general, but over several years the pair began to specialize in property tax appeals.<\/p>\n<p>In his testimony, Getzendanner described the firm\u2019s conflict of interest policy that Madigan and previous defense witnesses described on the witness stand. To avoid even the appearance of a conflict, Getzendanner said, he and Madigan would have \u201cat least one or two annual meetings\u201d with top lawyers from the speaker\u2019s office to identify and protect against any existing and potential clients who might have significant business with the state.<\/p>\n<p>Many things, according to Getzendanner, would be an automatic disqualifier for a potential client. Getzendanner testified that when he learned in 2015 that nursing homes got significant Medicaid money from the state \u2013 and not just from the federal government as he\u2019d long thought \u2013 the firm stopped representing nursing homes.<\/p>\n<p>Beyond that, there was a wholesale ban on the firm accepting business that had anything to do with land transfers from the state. The jury has already heard days of testimony about one such proposed land transfer with which Solis had sought Madigan\u2019s help.<\/p>\n<p>The Illinois Department of Transportation has long owned a parcel of land in Chicago\u2019s Chinatown neighborhood and leased it to a nonprofit that operates it as a parking lot. In 2017, Solis asked Madigan for guidance on how the state might transfer the land to the city of Chicago so the city could sell it to a developer interested in building on the land.<\/p>\n<p>Madigan recruited his friend and longtime Springfield lobbyist Mike McClain \u2013 now his co-defendant \u2013 to help, though Madigan stayed abreast of how the ultimately failed effort was progressing.<\/p>\n<p>Nine months after Solis asked for the speaker\u2019s help, he finally explicitly told Madigan that the developers would \u201cappreciate it and sign you up\u201d for legal work after the legislation authorizing the land transfer passed the General Assembly.<\/p>\n<p>In the wiretapped call, Madigan replied, \u201cOkay, alright, very good.\u201d But just like the prior interactions with Solis, the former speaker testified last week that he was simply trying to move past that part of the conversation because he never intended to meet the developers or seek their business.<\/p>\n<p>Madigan also didn\u2019t vote on land transfer bills, he and other witnesses testified, and the Chinatown transfer was never included in the annual land transfer legislation that did eventually pass in 2018.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Read more:<\/strong> <a href=\"https:\/\/capitolnewsillinois.com\/news\/theres-something-fishy-here-dont-you-think-wiretapped-calls-detail-madigan-confidants-confoundment-over-complicated-land-deal\/\">\u2018There\u2019s something fishy here, don\u2019t you think?\u2019: Wiretapped calls detail Madigan confidant\u2019s confoundment over land deal<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Getzendanner on Tuesday said it was a \u201cnonstarter\u201d when prospective clients were dealing with land transferred from the state.<\/p>\n<p>But under questioning from Streicker, Getzendanner acknowledged the firm did do business with some of the other developers Solis brought to Madigan. Streicker also pointed out that in an interview with the FBI in February 2021, Getzendanner claimed he only remembered one of the five meetings Solis had arranged to meet potential clients at the law firm. After reading the FBI report about the meeting on the stand, Getzendanner said he didn\u2019t remember saying that to the FBI.<\/p>\n<p>Getzendanner also agreed with Streicker\u2019s characterization that the former speaker \u201cfocused on client acquisition and business development\u201d for the firm made possible by his wide network built over a career in public life.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>\u201cFair to say Mr. Madigan was the rainmaker for the firm?\u201d Streicker asked.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cYes,\u201d Getzendanner answered.<\/p>\n<p><em><a href=\"https:\/\/capitolnewsillinois.com\/\">Capitol News Illinois<\/a> is a nonprofit, nonpartisan news service that distributes state government coverage to hundreds of news outlets statewide. 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